The Simpsons Rakes In the D'oh! - An interview
with Al Jean, a Simpsons producer
October 15, 2001, By Jason Tanz, Fortune
Homer Simpson isn't much of an investor--he once bought stock
in a company hours before it declared "superduper bankruptcy"--but
he still makes money. Between syndication, licensing, and merchandising fees,
Fox's The Simpsons is one of the most profitable sitcoms ever. Officials at
News Corp., Fox's parent, describe the animated series as a "$1 billion
asset."
The show, which enters its 13th year this fall, is the longest-running sitcom
on the air and one season short of breaking Ozzie and Harriet's record. In late
September, Fox released The Simpsons--The Complete First Season on DVD. FORTUNE
caught up with Al Jean, a Simpsons producer from the start, to talk about Homer,
News Corp. CEO Rupert Murdoch, and what really goes on at Moe's Tavern.
Q: If I'd told you in 1989 that you'd still be on the air in
2001 ...
A: I would have said, "Get out, you're crazy. We'll only last as long as
President Bush."
Q: How would you say the Simpsons as characters have changed
over the years?
A: Very minutely. When you have a live-action show, especially one with kids,
they grow up, they look different. Suddenly the kid on Leave It to Beaver is
six feet tall. On this show, the basic dynamic of the family is really the same
as it was.
Q: But you still have to keep things fresh.
A: Well, there's topical satire. This season we're going to satirize all these
reality shows every chance we get. But we're conscious of not dating the show
too much. You want to be able to watch a show from '93 and not think it's completely
passe.
Q: What else can we expect to see in the upcoming season?
A: Apu is going to have an affair. Lisa converts to Buddhism, and Richard Gere
is a guest star. Homer gets addicted to medicinal marijuana. We have a show
where Jon Lovitz returns as the man who loved Marge in high school, and he offers
Homer $1 million to try to steal her away. Julia Louis-Dreyfus plays [Monty]
Burns' girlfriend; the Internet will be happy to hear about that.
Q: The Simpsons was also one of the early successes for the
Fox network. How is it working for Rupert Murdoch?
A: We've been given independence to do what we want. They've never told us to
tone down the jokes. And Rupert himself has been a very good sport about several
appearances he's made on the show.
Q: Some Simpsons viewers are fanatics. Does that get frightening
for you?
A: We were at one cast reading in London where this guy came onstage, and he
had his whole body tattooed with Simpsons characters, including Ralph Wiggum
and Comic Book Guy. That was beyond the pale.
Q: Who are your favorite characters to write for?
A: Well, everyone loves writing for Homer. He's such an everyman. And some of
the things he's done are things that I've done.
Q: Like what?
A: There was an episode where he ate a big submarine sandwich that had turned
bad. The one I ate hadn't actually turned bad, but I was pushing it.
Q: This book, The Simpsons and Philosophy, raises a question
that I wanted to run by you. Lenny and Carl: Lenin and Marx?
A: Uh, no. [Pause.] That's my answer.
Q: What is Moe really like? Behind the scenes?
A: You know, [he's] pretty scary. He seems to have people buried in the bar,
and he runs pandas out the back. I really don't want to probe it too deeply.
Q: One final question: Can I have a job?
A: The way people apply is they submit a spec TV script.
Q: Oh, come on. You can't cut me some slack?
A: No. Sorry.